HAMMOND | The First Baptist Church of Hammond has dismissed Jack Schaap as its pastor in the wake of a Lake County police investigation.
http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/lake/hammond/hammond-baptist-dismisses-pastor-for-sin/article_f06530c4-884b-50b8-8f14-f32d4c205a9f.html
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/14133914-418/pastor-of-hammond-mega-church-fired-for-sin.html
The pastor of a fundamentalist mega church in Northwest Indiana has been dismissed because of a “sin” that’s being investigated by Lake County (Ind.) sheriff’s police.
(Supposedly this involves a 16 year old girl who came to him for counseling because she had already been sexually abused. Also, someone in the church noted that Jack Schaap left his cell phone on the pulpit after he preached and a deacon picked it up to take to him and a text message popped up that went into detail about the sexual encounter, from the girl. Allegedly Jack Schaap's secretary has been fired because she knew about this and was involved in transporting the girl across state lines to meet with Schaap. If that is true, she should be arrested.)
Come on people, don't act surprised. You know a man who was so filled with filth that he couldn't stop from spewing it from the pulpit had to be involved in a grievous sin.
And thank you to Bro. David Cloud for being willing for so many years to speak out against the Jack Hyles methods and madness. And for speaking out against the filthiness of Jack Schaap. That congregation can never say they were not warned.
http://www.noncomradio.net/clips/20120708pm-sexedit.mp3
ReplyDeleteI know I said that I was done mentioning Schaap, so I apologize for breaking my promise.
Balaam, I applaud you for taking a stand and leaving. You are making the right choice.
Grounded Grid, you are insane if you think it doesn't matter what the sermons are in a church. You are insane to tell people they shouldn't leave based on hearing stuff like this.
I NOW HAVE ZERO RESPECT FOR STAFF PEOPLE LIKE SCOTT GRAY, RAY YOUNG, JON TUTTON, WENDELL EVANS, ETC. You guys are a bunch of stinkin' cowards; you are a bunch of hirelings. If you had one ounce of manhood in you, you would have left over the Lord's Supper issue years ago, and now, after hearing bull crap like this...talking about God the Father, God the Son, and us as he did...you are a disgrace to the Lord Jesus Christ for staying. Get a real job, cowards!
The fall of the FBCH is happening because good men are doing nothing. Every one of those stinkin' staff men are ruining everything Brother Hyles ever built in the name of loyalty. Brother Hyles was my favorite preacher...even to this day! Hyles-Anderson College was responsible for training the pastor that started the church my family was saved in. I love the ministries of FBCH even though I have never been a member there, and it is SICKENING to hear bull crap like this coming from that pulpit.
This makes me furious to hear junk like this in the name of the Word of God. http://www.fundamentalforums.com/hyles-anderson-college/109622-jack-schaap-must-fired.html
What experienced Baptist Preacher/Counselor doesn’t have enough intelligence to know that a man doesn’t counsel a woman alone? And especially for sexual issues? Really? David Gibbs has counseled in detail what to do and not to do in this day and age in regard to counseling, bus ministry, etc. So what do the leaders do with that knowledge? You think it’s just for the workers in the ministry? Do you know how many amazing young men and women you as leaders are discouraging by your pompous egotistical behavior? Shame on you.
ReplyDeleteI think more than anything it doesn’t matter what your role is in the body of Christ we ALL need to remember Satan is seeking whom he can devour, and the bigger the catch the happier Satan is. It’s a big old, “In your face God Almighty I just made another one of yours fall, AND I get bonus points for this one. All kinds of Christians will be discouraged, the unsaved will mock Christianity AND never accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour.” Satan knows 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Jack Schaap just let Satan use him – shame on him – to drag how many more people to hell when Satan knows God isn’t willing any perish?
Christian men – get some back bone – stand up for what is right – you know what it takes not to fall to Satan’s temptation. Who said it was going to be easy? It’s a fight and you know darn well it’s worth it all when we stand in front of Jesus at that Judgment Seat of Christ. Will you please all let this incredibly sad, disappointing incident make you so mad you finally act like men and fight for what is right as children of God you all claim to be? I am so glad that First Baptist is calling Schaap out on this publicly. Now, for you church leaders that have been hiding sin take note. It might not be too late for you to get right and finally fess up to the perversion you are hiding for each other. What, you think God doesn’t know what you’ve been hiding for years? Shame on you.
If we can’t count on the lazy leadership that most IFB churches now possess then we the people need to take a stand!!! We need leaders that have hearts for God first and then God’s people and not leaders that do it for the notoriety. We need a church of leaders and people that have broken and contrite hearts. Not that God wanted this to happen, but if this can break a bunch of hearts God can use it. Those in Christian ministry that don’t have a heart for God and are just having a good old time, Go GET A JOB!!! God only needs a few GOOD men. WON’T YOU PLEASE STAND UP WHOEVER YOU ARE?
this just shows that the best of men are only men.. it can happen.. it happened to King David..
ReplyDeleteI do not consider Pastor Schaap "the best of men"
Deletethere is another pastor who has a long history of this he actually has a 72 page forum about him
ReplyDeletehttp://forum.rickross.com/read.php?12,11679,57315
he was singled out by schaap in 2010 pastor school http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjVZGUWRJgA
he came out in support of schaap figures they all stick together I hope he gets get next
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtOWU4FOwZ4